Saturday, October 25, 2025

AI Exposes Flaws in Bank Advisors' Bold Predictions

It is difficult to predict the future. When I was asked to predict the next banking crisis in 2023, I punted. I accepted the speaking engagement but failed to predict the future. 

I must have been a fool.

Predictions are high currency. I consistently see the most readership, the most listenership, and the biggest crowds for those who are known to predict, rightly or wrongly. Part is that the predictors are good speakers and writers. They are asked so often to do it, they glide across the stage like ballroom dancers.

I gave predictions another shot, this time at a smaller, more intimate event for customers of Atlantic Community Bankers' Bank. I aptly named it Predictapalooza. For a fun twist and to engage the audience, we handed out fake tomatoes for people to throw at me if they disagreed with my predictions. Spoiler: the biggest barrage came when I predicted that the dollar would no longer be the world's reserve currency.

Nobody has asked me to do Predictapalooza again. Maybe because I didn't say it with the certainty and authority that the predictors do. I delivered my predictions not with gravitas but with humor. I still have not figured out how the predictors can be so certain.

This makes it more difficult for bankers to predict the direction of their industry, their markets, and their bank. Go to a conference and you are told with high confidence that this thing or that thing will happen. And that bankers must do this or do that. I spoke with industry veteran Charles Potts about this recently. That the barrage of banking and fintech prognostications has made bankers so skeptical it is resulting in inaction, rather than measured action.

As advisors, bankers want to hear from us about the direction of the industry, and how other banks are successfully navigating the current and emerging environment. We owe it to them to be as knowledgeable as possible and apply that knowledge to our clients' situation. By no means, however, are we certain.

And I would be skeptical of anyone who claims they are.

So far the dollar remains the world's reserve currency. And by making US Treasuries the collateral behind stablecoins, the Genius Act will make my prediction even less likely.


~ Jeff


Bonus coverage: A great AI use case is to evaluate past predictions. I did so below regarding Payments, Branches, and Cryptocurrencies. Remember those bold predictions?

I also did a "where are they now" for Best of Show winners from Finovate in 2015. Ten years ago. Only four of the eight are active and operational. The other four have been either acquired or shut down. And these were the "best."



Predictions on Payments

Five-to-ten years ago (roughly 2015-2020), banking experts and industry reports made several key predictions about the future of payments. Many of these revolved around the rise of financial technology (FinTech) and digital transformation.

Here is a summary of some of those predictions, categorized as proven true or false:
 
Predictions That Have Proven Largely True
 

Prediction

Outcome & Current Reality

Source Examples (General)

Increased Disruption from FinTechs in Payments

FinTechs have significantly disrupted the payments sector, particularly with peer-to-peer (P2P) payments and non-bank money transfers, forcing traditional banks to adapt or partner.

PwC's Blurred lines: How FinTech is shaping Financial Services (2016); McKinsey's analysis of FinTech growth.

Growth of Mobile and Digital Wallets

Digital wallets have become the leading online payment method in many regions, and their adoption for in-person payments has also increased substantially, displacing cash.

Federal Reserve's Diary of Consumer Payment Choice; Worldpay's Global Payments Report series.

Decline in Cash Usage (at least in many economies)

Non-cash transactions, particularly electronic transactions, have continued to grow at a faster rate than overall payments revenue, indicating a clear move away from cash.

McKinsey's On the cusp of the next payments era; Capgemini's World Payments Report.

Momentum for Faster/Instant Payments

There has been a significant push and implementation of instant payment systems globally (e.g., the EU's SEPA Instant Credit Transfer, the US's FedNow, India's UPI). Consumers and businesses increasingly demand faster payments.

American Banker's 2015 Predictions Revisited (discusses momentum for a faster payments system); Treasury's The Future of Money and Payments.

Increased Focus on Customer Centricity

The FinTech revolution has driven banks and payments providers to focus intensely on improving the customer experience (convenience, accessibility, tailored products) to compete with tech-savvy new entrants.

PwC's Blurred lines: How FinTech is shaping Financial Services.

 
Predictions That Have Proven Largely False or Delayed

Prediction

Outcome & Current Reality

Source Examples (General)

Widespread Adoption of Blockchain/DLT for Core Payments

While Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) and blockchain were heavily touted as the immediate future for core payment system infrastructure (especially cross-border), their widespread, day-to-day use for large-scale, primary payment systems has been slower than predicted. Instant payment systems (like FedNow and SEPA Instant) were often built on established rail upgrades, not DLT.

KPMG's 10 predictions for the future of payments (2020, still predicting DLT as the primary means); Bank for International Settlements (BIS) papers discussing DLT and central bank initiatives.

Disappearance of Cash in the U.S.

While cash usage has declined in the U.S. compared to its global counterparts, it has proven resilient, especially among certain demographics and for small-dollar transactions. The prediction of cash "plummeting" in the near term has not fully materialized.

Federal Reserve's Diary of Consumer Payment Choice (notes cash's resilient "floor of support" in North America); Forrester predictions cited in Payments Dive (often predicting a plummet that has not fully occurred).

Banks' Immediate Loss of Most of Their Payments Business

While FinTechs have captured market share, the prediction that a very large percentage of traditional banking's business would be lost to FinTechs by 2020 often overstated the pace. Banks have largely retained their core role by either modernizing, acquiring FinTechs, or forming partnerships.

PwC's Blurred lines: How FinTech is shaping Financial Services (2016, predicted "More than 20% of FS business is at risk to FinTechs by 2020").


Source Citation Note:
Sources for these predictions and outcomes are generally found in industry reports and analysis published by major consulting firms, such as McKinsey & Company, PwC, Capgemini, and KPMG, as well as reports from central banks and regulatory bodies like the Federal Reserve and the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
  • For a specific example of a prediction review: The American Banker article 2015 Predictions Revisited: What the Seers Got Right and Wrong is an example of an industry publication specifically tracking and reviewing past predictions.
  • For a specific example of early predictions on disruption: PwC's Blurred lines: How FinTech is shaping Financial Services (2016) heavily emphasized the risk to incumbents and the disruption in payments by 2020.
  • For a specific example of ongoing payment trends: The Federal Reserve's Diary of Consumer Payment Choice reports and other studies provide concrete data on shifts in cash vs. digital payments in the US.
 

Predictions on Branches 

This is a fascinating look back at the rapidly evolving banking landscape. Based on reports and analyses from the 2015-2020 period, banking experts made several predictions about the future of bank branches.

Here is a summary of expert predictions from five to ten years ago, categorized by what has proven generally true and what has proven generally false or more nuanced, along with representative sources.

 
Predictions That Have Proven Generally True

Prediction

Supporting Evidence in Practice (True)

Source Examples (2015-2020 Context)

Net Decline in Physical Branch Count

The overall number of physical bank branches in the U.S. has continued to decline year-over-year, with the rate of closures often increasing in the mid-to-late 2010s, and accelerating due to the pandemic.

A 2018 analysis noted a net loss of over 5,400 bank branches since 2012, with the closure rate nearly doubling between 2015 and 2018. The NCRC noted a loss of over 13,400 branches since 2008. (Self Financial, NCRC)

Shift from Transactional to Advisory Role

Branches are increasingly being repurposed from high-volume transaction centers (like teller lines) to centers for complex advice, sales, and relationship building (e.g., mortgages, wealth management).

A 2021 review noted that the move toward branches focusing on an "advisory focus" rather than a "transaction focus" was a confirmed trend in the industry. (The Financial Brand)

Increased Integration of In-Branch Technology

New and remodeled branches feature more self-service options, such as Interactive Teller Machines (ITMs) and digital signage, replacing some of the functions of traditional tellers.

Experts noted the acceleration of "migration of transactions to self-service... including leveraging interactive teller machines, or ITMs." (BAI via Coconut Software)

Reduced Branch Size and Optimized Footprint

Banks began reducing the square footage of new and remodeled branches to lower real estate costs, preferring smaller, more efficient, and strategically located sites.

Data shows that the average new branch location for the largest banks had decreased its square footage significantly (e.g., 46% reduction from 2000 to 2023 YTD), moving away from large strip-center or first-floor office branches. (Cushman & Wakefield, though the data extends past 2020, the trend started earlier).


 
Predictions That Have Proven Generally False or More Nuanced

Prediction

Supporting Evidence in Practice (False/Nuanced)

Source Examples (2015-2020 Context)

"The Death of the Branch" (Complete Extinction)

While closures have been significant, the prediction that all or nearly all U.S. branches would close by a near-term date (e.g., by 2030 or 2034) has not materialized.

Reports around 2020 and later surveys consistently show that a large majority of consumers (e.g., 94% in a 2020 study, 72% in a 2023 survey) still use a bank with physical branches, value having a nearby location, and prefer in-person for complex activities like loan selection or problem resolution. (WBR Insights/Coconut Software, TD Bank via The Financial Brand)

Massive Decline in Customer Reliance on Physical Banking

While digital use surged, the physical branch remains important for a substantial portion of the population and specific interactions.

Even with the rise of digital tools accelerated by the pandemic, a significant portion of consumers (e.g., 84% in a 2023 survey) reported visiting a branch in the past year, and many (41-52%) prefer in-branch interaction for complex issues or financial planning. (WBR Insights/Coconut Software, TD Bank via The Financial Brand)

Smaller Banks Will Quickly Disappear Due to Branch Costs

Community banks have shown greater resilience in performance than some predictions, leveraging their traditional relationship model.

A 2020 FDIC study noted that community banks proved resilient after the 2008 financial crisis, showing faster growth in return on assets, stronger asset quality, and higher loan growth rates relative to non-community banks in the 2012-2019 period. (FDIC)


Source Citations and Context
The predictions were often driven by the dual trends of increasing mobile adoption and the post-financial crisis need for banks to cut costs and consolidate, leading to a focus on "optimization."
  • Net Decline & Branch Redefinition: The trend of bank closures and the re-imagining of the remaining branches into "advisory hubs" were commonly cited and have been consistently supported by FDIC data and industry analysis (e.g., Self Financial, NCRC, The Financial Brand).1
  • The "Death of the Branch" Narrative: While sensationalist predictions of near-term zero branches circulated, the persistence of consumer demand for physical locations for certain needs (especially advice and problem resolution) has demonstrated a more nuanced, "blended model" where digital and physical channels coexist (WBR Insights/Coconut Software, Cushman & Wakefield).
 

Predictions on Cryptocurrency 

During the period of approximately five to ten years ago (roughly 2015-2020), banking experts and financial authorities often expressed a mix of skepticism and cautious optimism regarding cryptocurrencies, particularly Bitcoin. Their predictions have played out in varied ways.
Here is a summary of some of the predictions that have proven true and those that have proven false, along with sources that reflect the sentiment of that era:
 
Predictions Proven True

Prediction

Outcome

Source Reference

Extreme Volatility and Speculative Bubble

Cryptocurrencies, especially Bitcoin, have demonstrated extreme price volatility with significant spikes and slumps, confirming their nature as highly speculative investments rather than stable currencies for exchange.

Bank for International Settlements (BIS) 2018; Brookings Institution (Prasad, 2021); European Central Bank (ECB) (2022)

Use in Illicit Activities

The anonymity offered by early cryptocurrency transactions made them the preferred medium for illicit activities, including fraud, scams, and ransomware payments.

Brookings Institution (Prasad, 2021); Chainalysis (cited in MDPI, 2023)

High Transaction Costs/Scalability Issues (for early Bitcoin)

As Bitcoin grew in popularity, issues like slow transaction times and high fees became prominent, making it cumbersome for daily use as a medium of exchange.

Brookings Institution (Prasad, 2021)

Importance of Underlying Blockchain Technology

While skeptical of the currency itself, many experts acknowledged that the underlying distributed ledger technology (DLT), or blockchain, was ingenious and had potential to transform payment services and financial settlement processes.

Bank for International Settlements (BIS) 2018; International Monetary Fund (IMF) (Lagarde, 2018)

 
Predictions Proven False or Partially False

Prediction

Outcome

Source Reference

Crypto will Go to Zero / It's a "Ponzi Scheme"

While some prominent figures predicted Bitcoin's value would crash to zero (e.g., Nobel laureate Eugene Fama's prediction), the overall cryptocurrency market cap has grown dramatically (reaching over $2.5 trillion in late 2021), and Bitcoin has established itself as a recognized, though volatile, asset class.

Chicago Booth (Fama, cited in Capitalisn't); MDPI (Prasad, 2021); ECB (2022)

Banks Will Be Displaced by Decentralized Systems

While there has been disruption, traditional banking and central banks have not been replaced. Instead, financial institutions have largely remained on the sidelines initially but are now increasingly exploring and adopting the underlying technology and, in some cases, offering crypto-related services. Central banks are also exploring Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).

Bank for International Settlements (BIS) 2018; Brookings Institution (Prasad, 2021); ECB (2022)

Lack of "Legitimacy" as a Financial Instrument

Initial skepticism labeled Bitcoin as merely a tool for money laundering. However, some major financial institutions and investors (like BlackRock's Larry Fink, who previously called it a money-laundering index) have since reversed their positions, calling it a "legitimate financial instrument" and seeking to incorporate it into mainstream finance (e.g., through ETFs).

Chicago Booth (Fink, cited in Capitalisn't)

Citations and Further Reading:
  • Bank for International Settlements (BIS). V. Cryptocurrencies: looking beyond the hype. Annual Report 2018, Chapter V (Published in June 2018).1 (Reflects expert caution on scalability, efficiency, and role as money.)
  • Brookings Institution. Prasad, Eswar. Bitcoin: The brutal truths revealed. (Published June 16, 2021).2 (Discusses volatility, illicit use, and scalability issues.)
  • Chicago Booth / Capitalisn't. Why This Nobel Economist Thinks Bitcoin Is Going to Zero. (Published January 30, 2025 - but discusses prior Fama and Fink predictions from earlier years).3 (Cites early high-profile skepticism that proved largely false on the "zero" price point.)
  • European Central Bank (ECB). Decrypting financial stability risks in crypto-asset markets. Financial Stability Review May 2022, Box B. (Reflects the view that crypto's size and complexity grew significantly since late 2020, and highlights high volatility.)4
  • International Monetary Fund (IMF). Lagarde, Christine. The Future of Currency in a Digital World. Finance & Development, Vol. 55, No. 2. (Published June 2018). (Reflects a more measured expert view, advising to "keep an open mind... not only because of the risks they pose, but also because of their potential.")
 
Source: Google Gemini AI
 

Finovate Fall 2015 Best of Show 

Prompt: ### FinovateFall 2015 Best of Show Winners and Their Current Status (as of October 2025)
 
The FinovateFall 2015 conference, held September 15-16, 2015, in New York City, featured 70 live fintech demos. Attendees voted for the Best of Show winners based on innovation and demo quality. The eight winners were announced on September 17, 2015, in alphabetical order. Below is a table summarizing each company, a brief recap of their demoed technology, and their status today. Many have evolved, been acquired, or pivoted significantly over the past decade.
 

|---------------|---------------------------------------------------|-----------------------|
| **Blockstack.io** | Private, hosted blockchain platform for financial services and enterprises to build apps via APIs and SDKs. | Acquired by Digital Asset in 2015 for blockchain settlement tools; the original entity is no longer active. (Note: This is distinct from the later Stacks blockchain project, which rebranded from Blockstack in 2021.) |

| **Dyme**     | Text-messaging-based savings tool to help users build habits and fund goals in real-time. | Shut down; the San Francisco-based company (founded 2014) ceased operations after participating in accelerators like Bank Innovation INV. (A separate, unrelated Dutch fintech named Dyme, focused on AI savings apps, was acquired by RISK in 2024.) |

| **Dynamics** | Programmable payment cards with Stripe, EMV, and NFC interfaces for enhanced security and functionality. | Active and operational; headquartered in Pittsburgh, PA, it specializes in battery-powered interactive cards (e.g., Wallet Card™) and partners with Mastercard, JCB, and banks like Emirates NBD for connected payment solutions. |

| **Finanteq** | SuperWallet app integrating m-commerce, remote services, and mobile banking for banks. | Active; Polish fintech (Lublin-based, founded 2014) with 100+ employees, now part of eLeader Group. Offers mobile banking platforms, ranked among top Polish fintechs by Deloitte, and publishes on 2025 trends like BNPL and cybersecurity. |

| **Hedgeable** | Digital wealth management platform with active, gamified investing for millennials. | Shut down; New York-based robo-advisor (founded 2009, ~$80M AUM in 2018) terminated services and deregistered with the SEC in August 2018 to pivot toward blockchain tech via a spin-off (Hydrogen). |

| **HelloWallet** | Retirement Explorer tool for employees to model retirement outcomes and optimize benefits. | Active; Washington, DC-based (founded 2009), acquired by KeyBank (undisclosed date). Now a KeyBank company offering personalized financial guidance via app, integrated with employer benefits and partners like Vanguard. |

| **SaleMove** | Engagement platform with OmniCall for face-to-face-like live interactions between online consumers and businesses. | Active (rebranded); New York-based (founded 2008), rebranded to Glia in 2020. Provides unified customer interaction management (messaging, video, AI) for financial services, serving banks, credit unions, and insurers. |

| **Soundpays** | Ultrasonic/sonic waveform recognition for app-based engagement in noisy environments (e.g., payments/proximity marketing). | Active; Toronto-based (founded 2015), focuses on inaudible soundwave tech for real-time mobile engagement. Recent activations include Houston Texans NFL partnership and app launches like @The Lightshow for fan experiences. |
 
Source: Grok AI


Sunday, October 19, 2025

Bank CEOs Most Pressing Issues: Hear From the Experts

Imagine stepping into the breach to moderate a CEO panel on the burning issues keeping bankers awake—intrigued yet? I had my hunches about their top concerns, but I wanted greater precision. So, we took action: the trade association polled its membership, while I tapped our content email list. Despite the challenge of coaxing responses, we crafted a single multiple-choice question, letting respondents pick their top three issues. The results? They’re revealed below—surprised?



Forget my lengthy take on the top four burning issues—Funding Strategies, Personnel Recruitment and Development, Customer Experience, and AI/Fintech Integration! Instead, I teamed up with industry insiders and experts to set the stage before turning the tables on attendees to have their roundtable takes.

Before I summarize our expert commentary on each hot topic, first meet our subject experts (SMEs):


Summary of SME Remarks


  • Bank Funding Strategies and Demographic Shifts: Neil Stanley discussed evolving bank funding strategies, the impact of changing depositor demographics, and actionable approaches for attracting and retaining deposits in a competitive environment, with follow-up questions on engaging younger depositors.

    • Evolving Funding Strategies: Neil explained that traditional distinctions between savers and investors have blurred, with more people viewing themselves as investors due to increased access to investment products and technology. He emphasized that banks now compete directly with U.S. Treasury products and money market accounts, and must adapt by offering more than just low interest rates to attract deposits.
    • Challenges with Traditional Approaches: Neil highlighted that relying on static rate sheets, frequent CD specials, and ad hoc pricing is outdated. He recommended banks move towards hybrid deposit products, such as companion accounts, and implement a sequential sales process similar to commercial lending to better serve different customer segments: sleepers, the curious, and shoppers.
    • Hybrid Deposit Products and Data Insights: Neil advised banks to introduce companion accounts, where new CD customers qualify for high-yield savings accounts, to attract both shoppers and curious customers. He also suggested leveraging data insights to identify single-service CD customers and broaden their relationships by offering additional products.
    • Addressing Aging Depositor Base: In response a question about the increasing average age of depositors, Neil noted that this trend reflects broader societal aging and the wealth concentration among baby boomers. He recommended not neglecting older customers, but also suggested banks offer efficient, reward-based checking programs and digital wallet integration to appeal to younger generations who value convenience and efficiency over traditional community banking.

  • Personnel Recruitment and Development in Community Banking: Amy Vieney from People's Security Bank and Trust addressed the challenges of talent recruitment and development in community banks, focusing on succession planning, generational differences, and the balance between hiring externally and developing internal talent, with the audience prompting a discussion on the pros and cons of each approach.

    • Succession Planning and Leadership Development: Amy emphasized the critical need for intentional staff and leadership development, noting that many community banks face a talent gap as long-tenured employees near retirement and younger generations have different workplace expectations. She described her bank's implementation of structured leadership development programs, including partnerships with third parties to build a pipeline of future leaders.
    • Generational Workforce Challenges: Amy discussed the conflicting dynamics between a shrinking baby boomer workforce and high turnover among Gen Z and Millennials. She highlighted the importance of adapting leadership and development strategies to meet the expectations of newer generations, who prioritize flexibility, technology, and career growth.
    • Balancing Internal Development and External Hiring: Prompted by a question, Amy outlined the advantages of hiring externally, such as bringing in fresh perspectives and filling urgent skill gaps, but noted higher costs and potential cultural fit issues. She contrasted this with internal development, which fosters cultural continuity and long-term loyalty but requires significant resources and time to build effective programs.
    • Strategic Importance of Development Programs: Amy stressed that leadership development and succession planning should be viewed as business strategies rather than HR initiatives. She argued that investing in people secures institutional culture, strengthens customer loyalty, and ensures long-term organizational stability, especially in the face of industry consolidation and technological change.

  • Enhancing Customer Experience in Community Banks: Tara Brady from Provident Bank explored the complexities of delivering exceptional customer experiences in community banking, focusing on generational expectations, the impact of technology and fraud, and the importance of employee empowerment, with further discussion around relevant KPIs and strategies.

    • Changing Customer Expectations: Tara described how customers now expect immediate, accurate, and consistent service, influenced by social media, AI, and the prevalence of fraud. She noted that younger generations are not necessarily attracted by traditional banking rewards or branch access, but instead seek financial education and security.
    • Financial Education and Early Engagement: Tara shared findings from internal and market studies showing that younger customers often lack financial education and rely on parents for guidance. She emphasized the need for banks to engage with potential customers earlier, ideally before college, and to provide accessible educational resources for both students and parents.
    • Fraud and Trust Issues: Tara highlighted the growing challenge of fraud, with customers frequently unsure about whom to trust. She stressed the importance of proactive fraud education and support, as well as clear communication about protections like FDIC insurance, to build trust with both younger and older customers.
    • Employee Empowerment and Customer Support: Tara advocated for empowering employees with tools and training to address the needs of diverse customer segments, particularly younger customers who value being heard and supported. She recommended active listening, tailored guidance, and upfront fraud conversations as key strategies.
    • Measuring Customer Experience: In response to an audience question, Tara recommended using customer effort score, customer lifetime loyalty, and wallet share as key performance indicators, rather than relying solely on Net Promoter Score (NPS), to more accurately assess and improve the customer experience.

  • Fintech and Artificial Intelligence Integration in Banking: Shea Gabrielleschi from Hartman Executive Advisors, provided an overview of the current state and best practices for integrating fintech and AI in banking, addressing operational efficiencies, data strategy, security concerns, and the importance of proactive adoption, with questions from attendees on AI tools and data privacy.

    • AI Adoption and Strategic Policy: Shea explained that AI is already present in banks, whether formally adopted or not, and advised against trying to ban or ignore it. Instead, banks should develop policies aligned with strategic goals and governance, and begin structured adoption to avoid security risks from unsanctioned use.
    • Operational Efficiency and Early Use Cases: Shea noted that most banks are focusing initial AI investments on operational efficiency, such as automating back-office tasks, drafting documents, and searching internal files. Tools like Microsoft Copilot are being piloted to safely introduce large language models within secure environments.
    • Data Strategy and Vendor Integration: Shea emphasized the importance of banks taking ownership of their data to enable effective integration with fintech and AI tools. He advised banks to negotiate for better data access in core platform contracts and to organize data for secure, efficient use by third-party vendors.
    • Security and Privacy in AI Tools: In response to audience questions, Shea clarified that tools like Microsoft Copilot keep data within the bank's secure environment and do not use customer inputs to train global models. He contrasted this with public AI models and recommended using business-grade, secure AI solutions.
    • Leadership and Ongoing Learning: Shea encouraged bank leaders to personally experiment with AI tools to build familiarity and to foster a collaborative approach to AI adoption. He stressed that no one is an expert yet, and that ongoing peer learning and adaptation are essential as the technology and regulatory landscape evolve.

Reader to-do's:

  • Funding Strategy Product Enhancement: Evaluate and consider implementing a hybrid deposit product (companion account) to attract new money and broaden relationships with single-service CD customers.
  • Leadership Development Program: Engage with outside providers to launch structured leadership development journeys for new leaders, aspiring leaders, and high potentials within the organization.
  • Customer Education Initiatives: Develop and offer educational resources and webinars targeted at parents of students and students to address gaps in financial education and support early engagement with banking services.
  • AI and Data Strategy: Review and update core platform contracts to ensure greater ownership and accessibility of bank data for effective integration with AI and fintech tools.

A big thank you to our SMEs and I hope you can benefit from the discussions our bank CEOs enjoyed while discussing their and our most pressing issues.


~ Jeff